Legislature(1995 - 1996)

04/10/1995 09:10 AM House HES

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            JOINT HOUSE AND SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION                           
            AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEES                            
                         April 10, 1995                                        
                           9:10 a.m.                                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
 SENATE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                        
                                                                               
 Senator Lyda Green, Chairman                                                  
 Senator Loren Leman, Vice-Chairman                                            
 Senator Mike Miller                                                           
 Senator Johnny Ellis                                                          
 Senator Judy Salo                                                             
                                                                               
 SENATE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                         
                                                                               
 All members present                                                           
                                                                               
 HOUSE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                         
                                                                               
 Representative Con Bunde, Co-Chair                                            
 Representative Cynthia Toohey, Co-Chair                                       
 Representative Caren Robinson                                                 
                                                                               
 HOUSES MEMBERS ABSENT                                                         
                                                                               
 Representative Al Vezey                                                       
 Representative Gary Davis                                                     
 Representative Norman Rokeberg                                                
 Representative Tom Brice                                                      
                                                                               
 COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                            
                                                                               
 Presentation by Rebecca Rufner, Arizona State Coordinator, National           
 Committee for the Prevention of Child Abuse.                                  
                                                                               
 WITNESS REGISTER                                                              
                                                                               
 REBECCA RUFNER, Arizona State Coordinator                                     
 National Committee for the Prevention                                         
   of Child Abuse                                                              
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave presentation                                        
                                                                               
 SHERRIE GOLL, Lobbyist                                                        
 P.O. Box 22156                                                                
 Juneau, Alaska 99802                                                          
 Telephone:  (907) 463-6744                                                    
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered funding questions regarding                     
                      Ms. Rufner's presentation                                
                                                                               
 ACTION NARRATIVE                                                              
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-29, SIDE A                                                            
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LYDA GREEN called the Joint House and Senate Health,                 
 Education and Social Services (HESS) Committee to order at 9:10               
 a.m.  She invited Rebecca Rufner to come forward to give her                  
 presentation.                                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 028                                                                    
                                                                               
 REBECCA RUFNER, Arizona State Coordinator of the National Committee           
 for the Prevention of Child Abuse, informed the committee that she            
 would be speaking about her experience in Arizona and the national            
 progress of the Healthy Families Program.  She commented that today           
 social problems threaten the future of our country, families and              
 communities.  She explained that she is a National Site Visitor for           
 Healthy Families which is a neo-natal home visitation program aimed           
 at child health and development, family functioning, and prevention           
 of child abuse and neglect.  Child abuse is believed to be the root           
 of many of the social problems facing us today.  She informed the             
 committee that persons in maximum security prisons have all been              
 severely abused and neglected as young children.  This common link            
 of severe abuse and neglect of young children can also be found in            
 juvenile delinquents, the mentally ill, high school dropouts, teen            
 runaways, pregnant teens, and alcohol and drug abusers as well as             
 long-term welfare dependents.                                                 
                                                                               
 MS. RUFNER stated that child abuse is costing the state of Alaska             
 millions of dollars a year in child welfare investigations and                
 treatment, foster care, special education, and residential care.              
 She noted that in Arizona the cost of opening an investigation of             
 a child abuse case totals approximately $10,000 not to mention the            
 hundreds of thousands spent in treatment.  The long-term can barely           
 be estimated.  She informed the committee that approximately 80               
 percent of severe abuse affects children under the age of five.               
 Forty-three percent of the children who die from abuse and neglect            
 have not reached their first birthday.  She expressed the need to             
 solve the social problems facing the country in order to decrease             
 the costs of social programs while increasing their effectiveness             
 and outcome.  She pointed out that Human Services is under much               
 scrutiny and pressure to become more accountable, more outcome                
 based and more cost effective with all of its programs.  There is             
 a tremendous amount of fragmentation in their service delivery                
 systems.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 117                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. RUFNER said Healthy Families Alaska is under way and has much             
 interest across the state.  She noted that currently, there are               
 three programs that are funded and operating.  All 50 states are in           
 various stages of planning, implementing and securing state funding           
 for this program on a pilot basis.  Arizona has $4.7 million in               
 state funds which funds approximately 16 sites.  She informed the             
 committee of the goals of the Healthy Families Program:  Child                
 health and development; the enhancement of family functioning; and            
 the prevention of child abuse and neglect.  Those people who are              
 most likely to have poor parenting outcomes in the first few years            
 face great burdens during the birth of their children.  The burdens           
 of those people can be identified as poverty, substance abuse,                
 criminal history, domestic violence and a history of abuse or                 
 neglect as a child themselves.                                                
                                                                               
 MS. RUFNER explained that the Healthy Families Program provides               
 home visitation to those families soon after they return from the             
 hospital.  Ms. Rufner pointed out that in Arizona, there has been             
 a 95 percent acceptance rate of the families with major stressors.            
 The family can refuse services at any time.  The home visitor helps           
 the family identify their goals as parents, their family                      
 aspirations as well as assisting the family in moving forward in              
 those issues.  Ms. Rufner looked forward to positive outcomes in              
 the programs in Alaska.  The states who have done outcome                     
 evaluations of this program, have seen a 95 percent immunization              
 rate in children in the program and all program children receiving            
 preventive and primary health care.  She explained that preventive            
 and primary health care is very important in order to avoid the               
 treatment of basic health problems in emergency rooms and acute               
 care settings where the costs are higher.                                     
                                                                               
 MS. RUFNER stated that there is good outcome information about                
 child development scores.  Children with developmental delay risks            
 have been identified early and placed them in services addressing             
 that problem.  Again, this early intervention would decrease costs            
 of special education and later intervention programs.  There have             
 been positive scores in family functioning.  Ms. Rufner pointed out           
 that the home visitors in Arizona are from the community and they             
 share the culture and values of the community.  There has been a 95           
 percent success rate in the prevention of abuse and neglect in this           
 high risk parent group.  She expressed pleasure in Arizona's                  
 outcomes and predicted that Alaska could expect the same.  The cost           
 effectiveness of this program is very exciting.  She estimated the            
 cost to be $3,000 per year per family as compared to the $10,000              
 cost in merely opening a case for an investigation of child abuse             
 in Arizona.  In conclusion, Ms. Rufner stated that the Healthy                
 Families Program is an exciting and promising approach with regards           
 to long-term solutions to these costly problems.                              
                                                                               
 Number 217                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE CYNTHIA TOOHEY asked Ms. Rufner if she thought the             
 cost in Alaska would be $3,000 or would it be a little higher.  MS.           
 RUFNER said that there may be a percentage higher cost per family             
 in Alaska which would also mean that investigation and treatment              
 costs would also be higher.  The average cost in Arizona is                   
 approximately $3,000 in the first year while the cost dropped to              
 approximately $2,250 in the second year.  Visits after the first              
 year are less frequent and the family becomes more self-sufficient            
 in the second year.                                                           
                                                                               
 In response to Representative Toohey, MS. RUFNER clarified that the           
 family needs assessment person works in the hospital directly with            
 OB and pediatrician and hospital staff.  The family needs                     
 assessment person has a BA or above; that person needs good skills            
 with face to face interviews as well as the ability to discuss                
 problems with new mothers.  Ms. Rufner explained that the home                
 visitor in Arizona is a non degreed woman.  Program supervisors               
 should be Masters level people.                                               
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE inquired as to what a home visit would               
 consist.  MS. RUFNER explained that the early focus of the home               
 visit is building a trusting relationship with the parent.  Often             
 overburdened families lack trust in traditional services.  As the             
 parent and home visitor build trust the focus of the visit turns to           
 the needs of the infant.  Child health is another important focus             
 of the visit.  The visit also focuses on personal issues of the               
 family.  Ms. Rufner specified that the issues addressed in the home           
 visits are issues that have been identified by the family as their            
 needs and wants.  The family is in control.  After a few months in            
 the program, family stress levels decline which affords the family            
 more opportunity to focus on the children.                                    
                                                                               
 Number 277                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE stated that this program seemed to provide a             
 state supported conscious for these people who supports the notion            
 that it takes a village to raise a child as opposed to the past               
 years of encouragement of privacy.  Representative Bunde felt that            
 Ms. Rufner's use of the word "burden" indicated that the families             
 plight was imposed on them.  He preferred to say that the families            
 were making poor choices.                                                     
                                                                               
 SENATOR JOHNNY ELLIS asked the House members what had happened with           
 the Governor's funding proposal for this program.  Senator Ellis              
 asked if Ms. Rufner could then give an estimate as to the level of            
 program possible with regards to the funding.  REPRESENTATIVE                 
 TOOHEY hoped that it was the same, but was unsure.  REPRESENTATIVE            
 CAREN ROBINSON specified that funding had been requested for three            
 programs while only the program in Juneau received funding.                   
                                                                               
 Number 308                                                                    
                                                                               
 SHERRI GOLL, Lobbyist, Alaska Women's Lobby, clarified that the               
 House passed a budget that included $200,000 more for one                     
 additional project than existed last year.  The Governor had                  
 requested $600,000 additional money, beyond last year's                       
 appropriations in order to open new sites for Healthy Start.  The             
 House included $200,000 more for one additional site, which would             
 be in addition to the Juneau program that was funded last year.               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN inquired as to the net funding.  SHERRI GOLL                   
 explained that last year was the first year of the program which              
 had an appropriation of $200,000.  Now there is a total of $400,000           
 appropriated for Healthy Start.                                               
                                                                               
 MS. RUFNER believed that the best way to build these programs on a            
 state level is team by team, community by community.  The three               
 sites in Juneau, Kenai, and Anchorage are a good start.  Ms. Rufner           
 informed the committee that there are more than 11,000 births a               
 year; approximately a quarter of the population that is high risk             
 would be served.                                                              
                                                                               
 SENATOR JUDY SALO noted that overcoming substance abuse even with             
 help is difficult, however, Ms. Rufner had presented overwhelmingly           
 positive and successful statistics.  Senator Salo asked if there              
 was any particular manner in which substance abuse problems are               
 treated.                                                                      
                                                                               
 MS. RUFNER said that there are no particular ways in which to deal            
 with substance abuse families.  Perhaps the most positive aspect of           
 this program is that when home visitors recognize substance abuse             
 in families with new babies, someone is watching out for the health           
 and safety of the infant.  A good percentage of the program's new             
 mothers have entered substance recovery programs.  She explained              
 that birth is a time of emotional focus for the parent.  She                  
 pointed out that in Arizona there is a shortage of effective and              
 available treatment programs.  Child care becomes a problem for               
 parents seeking residential treatment.  She emphasized that the               
 availability and awareness of help early on is important.  She                
 mentioned that approximately 60 to 70 percent of the child abuse              
 referrals involve substance abuse.  That would seem to be the case            
 in Alaska or even higher.  She indicated that a large number of               
 infant and child fatalities could be involved in substance abuse.             
 Ms. Rufner reiterated that the program has served very substance              
 abusing high risk families with no fatalities and no severe abuse.            
                                                                               
 Number 380                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN inquired as to the responsibility of these programs            
 with regard to confidentiality.  MS. RUFNER agreed that was                   
 difficult, but it is manageable with respect to the confidentiality           
 aspect and the ethical perspective of the home visitor.  Home                 
 visitors are mandated to report child abuse and neglect; that is a            
 federal and state law.  Ms. Rufner noted that the families are                
 notified of this law, furthermore, the family signs an informed               
 consent when they begin the program.  The family can decide at any            
 time to leave the program.  There is no punitive follow up unless             
 the child was in imminent harm of abuse or neglect in the opinion             
 of the home visitor.  Ms. Rufner informed the committee that public           
 opinion polling by the National Committee to Prevent Child Abuse              
 found that 86 percent of Americans polled feel that providing a               
 home visitor to new parents is positive.  All other industrialized            
 countries provide public health home visitation to new parents.               
 America did this in the past through public health nursing, but we            
 switched over to clinic based services which was believed to be               
 more cost effective.  The preventive capacity has been lost when              
 new parents are not supported when they leave the hospital.                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if any of the sites in Arizona were considered           
 rural.  MS. RUFNER replied yes and explained that the home visitors           
 spend a lot of time in transit.  Families are widely spaced from              
 one another.  The costs are about the same.                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE TOOHEY inquired as to the number of single parents             
 in these programs.  MS. RUFNER explained that in Arizona the                  
 program serves a higher percentage of single parents than in Hawaii           
 due to Arizona's higher divorce rate and teen birth rate.  In the             
 Tucson program, of the unemployed families enrolled in the program            
 at the time the babies were born, 75 percent of those families had            
 an employed parent within one year.  That is strongly encouraged by           
 the home visitor.                                                             
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON understood that the home visitor helps the            
 family set goals.  Often young families do not have the skills.               
 Representative Robinson asked if the family needed transportation             
 to a health care facility, would the home visitor provide that.               
 MS. RUFNER replied yes and explained that the home visitor attempts           
 to help the family identify the needs of the family and the child.            
 Then the home visitor helps the parent feel competent to solve                
 their problems; the home visitor does not solve the family's                  
 problems.  The solutions are generated as part of the relationship            
 between the parent and the home visitor.                                      
                                                                               
 Number 446                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON inquired as to how these programs were                
 funded in Arizona.  Representative Robinson also asked if Arizona             
 had a Children's Trust Fund.  MS. RUFNER pointed out that Arizona's           
 Children's Trust Fund was the original funding source of the first            
 two pilot sites.  That trust fund is funded by marriage decrees and           
 divorce dissolutions and $1 from death certificates.  Last year the           
 Healthy Families Program was expanded with a combination of funding           
 from the Children's Trust Fund, state dollars as well as community            
 foundations and dollars.                                                      
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ROBINSON asked if Ms. Rufner had found an average              
 age level of those served.  MS. RUFNER did not know the median age            
 of the parents served, however, most of the parents served are                
 under the age of 25.  A number of parents in the program are having           
 there third or fourth child.                                                  
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO asked how long the family would be served after the              
 birth of the baby.  MS. RUFNER specified that the home visitor can            
 visit up to five years.  The goal of the program is to ensure that            
 the children enter school safe, healthy, and ready to succeed in              
 school.  Ms. Rufner commented that a universal transition to Head             
 Start for a child at age three is an exciting aspect of this                  
 program.  A way to save money in the state's system is to develop             
 a seamless transition from the home visitation program into Head              
 Start at age three.                                                           
                                                                               
 There being no further questions, Chairman Green thanked Ms. Rufner           
 for her presentation.  Chairman Green called a brief at ease from             
 9:45 a.m. to 9:50 a.m. so that the House members may leave the                
 meeting room.                                                                 
                                                                               

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